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General Discussion / Re: Problem selecting other objects in Point Select Mode
« Last post by Rob S on February 22, 2018, 07:05:44 AM »

No need for any fixing here.
General Discussion / Re: Problem selecting other objects in Point Select Mode
« Last post by Dr PR on February 21, 2018, 10:38:05 PM »
Actually, Point Select Mode has no purpose other than selecting some of the points in an object. There is no other reason to enable it. Drag select allows selection of multiple points in a single action. This cannot be done by clicking the mouse button to select multiple points. After selecting a single point the next mouse click moves it.

The only way to deselect a selected point is to drag select around it.

The ability to drag select multiple points is one of DesignCAD's most useful features - I use it all the time. It is especially useful for stretching planes or solids to make them align with other objects. I have already used it dozens of times today in the project I am working on.

While in Point Select Mode you can use Shift plus left mouse button to select additional objects (not points). But be careful, because Shift click will also select points! And if you select a point that is a handle on one object it serves as a handle for moving all selected objects (not just the point).


I suppose an ALT drag function could be added to allow drag selecting multiple objects - and not select points. This would be useful because you may sometimes want to move some points in one object and other whole objects by selecting a single point or group of points in the first object and then dragging one point to move all selected objects or points.

However, there is a problem here. The only purpose of Point Select Mode is to drag selected points. Even though you may have used ALT drag to select a bunch more objects the points in those objects will not be selected. You would still have to use normal drag select to select the points in the additional objects you want to move. Just selecting the objects without selecting the points will not, should not - MUST NOT move unselected points.

There is one additional problem. After you have selected a line or a plane if you click near it you add a new point to the object. If you have multiple lines or planes selected it is anyone's guess which object will get the new point when you click. My guess is that it will be the last of the objects created.


Point Select Mode has a default hot key CTRL-1 to toggle the mode on and off. It is extremely easy to switch between modes for selecting multiple objects (Point Select Mode off) or multiple points (Point Select Mode on) with the drag select. I really see no need for an additional drag function to select multiple objects within Point Select Mode.


General Discussion / Re: Problem selecting other objects in Point Select Mode
« Last post by Dempsey on February 21, 2018, 09:01:43 PM »
Aha, I didn't realize that drag select has a special function when in point select mode. In that case the developers should have made it special by using ALT drag select and leave the general drag select function as is.  Ah, well, hind sight is 20-20.

General Discussion / Re: Install
« Last post by Lar on February 21, 2018, 08:14:00 AM »
But it does seem like users are having individualized problems, ie, new problems that no one else is having. Mine was if I tried to export DXF my virus protection would alert me of an attack then would remove some dll files (which I assumed were for dcad's dxf'ing). That went away when I did the last win-10 update - which also seemed to speed up my display because working in shaded mode with Red off is just about doable now).
I use Norton and I too (previously) experienced the same problem as Aqua. About 4 dll files got 'removed' while installing but it did not stop dcad from running. However, whenever I tried to dxf something I got the virus alerts again. Like I say in the quote, the big Win10 update that came around that time cured the situation.

Looking For Help? / Re: Problem importing DWG file
« Last post by Lar on February 21, 2018, 07:12:25 AM »
It seems some ACad users have all the blocks the have ever used loaded into every drawing they start!
Truer words...

Typically I work in 'metres' but if I get a file drawn in 'inches' & I change the scale so I can measure things in metric the text blowout will happen.
Thank you Adrian. One less mystery I have to live with.
General Discussion / Re: Install
« Last post by aqua on February 21, 2018, 02:56:57 AM »

Anti Virus is Microsoft Security Essentials
It has quarantined the item however does not allow you to restore it, remove it is the only option.
The virus definitions are up to date.

I get the dll error message at start up, then it opens, don't know yet if it operates.

Installed version is 27.0, however it is January 2018, so it is the latest.
Desgncad used to be that you had to install the original, example 25.0
then install each patch in order, patch 1 would mean you end up with 25.1, etc

It appears now that if you buy/download the 2018 (27) now in February 2018, it comes installed with the patch, so all is fine there.
General Discussion / Re: Problems with Dropbox
« Last post by whodean on February 21, 2018, 12:11:39 AM »
It is something that has been happening recently.  I have used DCAD with Dropbox for years (I have been a DCAD user since the early 90s).  I was on version 23 and I didn't experience this issue. 

So, it must be something that has been introduced more recently.
General Discussion / Re: Install
« Last post by Rob S on February 20, 2018, 07:08:24 PM »
I suspect the virus alert is a false positive from your anti-virus.

Many others have installed this program without any issues.  Once your anti-virus has deleted the required dll, of course Designcad cannot run properly.

There should be some way for you to override the antivirus and re-instate this dll.

The RED sdk alert is a normal part of the new version, which allows you to run a different video display software.
You turn it off or on under options, options, general, REDSDK options button in the middle of the dialog.

There are some advantages and some disadvantages, best way to find out more search for redSDK on this forum.

As to the patch, maybe your purchased software is already up-to-date.  Once you get it running, check the release date in help, about if it is something like Jan 13, 2018 then it is the latest version and you don't need the update.   

If the release date is something like Nov 16, then make sure you have downloaded the correct patch for 2108 Max 32bit.   There are three others ie the 64 bit and the 2D (not MAX).

Good luck
General Discussion / Install
« Last post by aqua on February 20, 2018, 06:34:16 PM »
Have Windows 7 Professional 32 bit computer
Have Designcad 26 and all works fine

Just purchased Designcad 27 (2018)

I get an error about a Trojan virus related to Dcad27en.dll
and it has isolated this file,
as well as the error message Cannot load Resource DLL

I get a message "You are able to run Designcad in RedSDK Mode"
Not sure what this means

And can load the upgrade patch, advises that either the program to be updated may be missing or the upgrade patch may update a different version.

Version and patch are 32 bit (86)

Can anyone shed any light on these issues?

General Discussion / Re: Problem selecting other objects in Point Select Mode
« Last post by adriank on February 20, 2018, 06:19:18 PM »
I use drag-select in point select mode all the time - it's one of the primary benefits of point-select mode.

If you drag a selection box round specific points it changes them to solid blue instead of hollow blue point IDs and then you can manipulate all of them together by moving or deleting them as a group.
You can still add to the selection group in point select mode by holding the shift key & selecting additional objects, you just have to click on each object individually. When I know in advance I'll be needing to add a bunch of stuff to my selection in point-select I tend to temporarily group them before hand so I can select them when I need them with one click.

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