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General Discussion / Re: Beta 2019: Dcad freezing after 3DTool
« Last post by Shaheryar Rafiq on Today at 12:21:39 AM »
This happened for me with a new test  drawing created in v2019 containing a cube with a sphere subtracted from one corner. I will check if it happens with other drawings as well

Procedure - draw a couple of solids in 3D mode

Run the 3d print tool, click OK til it exits

Type shortcut V, or click the line tool (or most other commands as well), and the cursor snaps to a point and wont move.  No points can be set.

Press esc, cursor becomes visible. 

Problem persists after opening a different drawing.
Reproduced and logged for the devs to take a look.
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General Discussion / Re: Beta 2019 comments
« Last post by Shaheryar Rafiq on May 20, 2019, 11:30:56 PM »
Here is another problem with V28.0x64 beta 1.

I opened an old 6 Mbyte 3D drawing (22507 entities) that was certain to have problems for 3D printing (lots of grids with open edges, reversed normals, etc.)

I ran the "Tools/3D Print" function and a "3D Print Check Tool" dialog box opened. It provided a lot of good information about the drawing.

But when I clicked the "OK" button the dialog stayed open, and some of the values changed. I clicked again and again, and even tried clicking the "X" button at the top right of the dialog box, and it won't go away! The "ESCape" key just continues to cycle through the sequence.

Right clicking opens a box with a "X Close ALt-F4" option, but this just continues the cycling. ALt-F4 continued the cycling. I guess I need to repeat this 22507 times to get out of the dialog.

How are we supposed to exit this dialog?

CTRL-ALT-DEL and Task Manager seems to be the only way to stop it.

Phil
Reproduced and logged for the devs to take a look.
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Tried a simple multipoint line in 3d, in a new file... Worked.
Loaded a simple I-beam plane entity as a linked symbol... Print happened but the Plane symbol did not show. Shaded views come out as wireframe though, it seems.

Loaded a more elaborate louvered door symbol... Line visible, Plane symbols still invisible, Door symbol visible but upside down and the tiny little 0.2 attribute in it was zoomed up by about 10 times.

Then I tried a relatively simple print with no symbols from the file I got the 'Symbol name error' and got 'general error for pdf output' error.
Lar
Lar,
Can I have this file to take a look at my side?.
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General Discussion / Re: Beta 2019 comments
« Last post by bdeck on May 20, 2019, 10:05:34 PM »
Hi Adrian,

That's probably encouraging - it looks like the programmers were trying to get  it right, they just didn't manage it.

Maybe, but those were (presumably) Russian temps hired for a project (presumably) completed 12 years ago.  12 years?!   Also, its hard to tell what the programmers were thinking.

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(It doesn't bother me about the extra point to make sure the correct angle is dimensioned - I use 'no leader' always when I dimension things as I need to be able to position the text so it's easiest to read & not over the top of some other part of the drawing.)

I may be forced to relent on this issue.

One disadvantage to using the 4th point to set both the arc radius and the conjugate angle is that it would require multiple iterations to create the type of arc leader in our failed examples, presuming that such a dimension is even possible or exportable. (Any autocad users know if it's possible in AC?)

One advantage to using the 4th point to choose the conjugate is that it leaves the door open for future implementation of signed angles, which would depend on point order. (dunno if I would ever need them)

So I guess I'll follow your lead, and begin using "no leader" as well.  It sometimes renders incorrectly when too close to the dim radius, and it fails when the radius is too small, but it seems to export correctly.

bd

PS: Prior to exporting, the movement parameter of any dimension having a "custom" horizontal text postion should be converted to "no leader".  (AC apparently has no equivalent to DC's "custom" horizontal text position.)
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General Discussion / Re: Beta 2019: Dcad freezing after 3DTool
« Last post by Rob S on May 20, 2019, 09:11:59 PM »
Yes, that works for me as well, thanks for the workaround.

Unfortunately I tested it by trying to draw a torus in shaded mode, the bloody thing was re-drawing rubber band lines til the cows came home, so whatever you do don't use that one in shaded mode.   :)
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General Discussion / Re: Beta 2019: Dcad freezing after 3DTool
« Last post by Lar on May 20, 2019, 08:55:22 PM »

Found out how to un-stick the cursor...


After running the 3D Tool and getting the stuck cursor and pressing esc to abort the command plus free up the cursor, if you run certain commands it kills the sticking cursor. Commands I found so far are: many of the Solid Primitive commands, except Box (I tried Sphere, Pyramid and Torus), also Pointmark, Hatch and many of the Text commands.


Lar
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General Discussion / Re: Beta 2019: Dcad freezing after 3DTool
« Last post by Lar on May 20, 2019, 08:42:03 PM »
Once we get pass the stuck-cursor thing, do you programmers think, since the 3D tool can find gaps, that it can close them up too.

Many times with solids than I manually construct by snapping Planes and Grid Surfaces together, later on I find many of the points don't meet (only visible at very close zooms). Then I get obsessed with examining every corner at high zooms snapping the gapped points together.

Realizing that this obsession of mine must be a personality disorder and I had to do something about wasting so much time I wrote a 'quantize' macro that goes through every point in a drawing and moved it to the nearest 1/16th of an inch. This closed up the gaps but later the gaps came back, like dcad every now and then loses high accuracy or something.

I did test the 3D Tool by creating a cube with the Box command, Solid Exploding it, moving the components away from each other, then snapping them back together again ant the tool did find some gaps in that  reconstructed cube. Also found lots in a cylinder created using the built in command,

Lar
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Tried a simple multipoint line in 3d, in a new file... Worked.


Loaded a simple I-beam plane entity as a linked symbol... Print happened but the Plane symbol did not show. Shaded views come out as wireframe though, it seems.


Loaded a more elaborate louvered door symbol... Line visible, Plane symbols still invisible, Door symbol visible but upside down and the tiny little 0.2 attribute in it was zoomed up by about 10 times.


Then I tried a relatively simple print with no symbols from the file I got the 'Symbol name error' and got 'general error for pdf output' error.






Lar
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Took you a while to find this one, didn't it???    :)

;D
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General Discussion / Re: Can't fillet certain edges
« Last post by Rob S on May 20, 2019, 05:17:25 PM »
Thanks, Jim

Yeah, I figured my white business shirt was a bit majorly outdated.

This was me sitting by the lake after a Kayak paddle, watching the sunset.

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