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A quick update.
The host folder I'm using to test settings is saved on my desktop. It has 6 folders in it and one of those has 3 sub-folders.
The first time I opened my DCad browser and checked them this morning:
The host displayed Date and Date mod.
Of the 6 folders in it, 3 displayed Date & 3 displayed Date Mod.
Of the 3 sub-folders , 2 displayed Date, one displayed Date Mod.

I then shut my computer down & re-booted it, then checked again.

The host still shows Date & Date Mod.
5 folders now display Date, one displays Date mod. All the sub folders have reverted to Date.

In Windows Explorer all the folders have reverted to Date - except 1.

To summarize,
Windows & DCad's explorers both match except for the host folder which shows both date and date modified in DCad. Windows dropped the date modified.
One folder only has retained the 'Date Modified' instead of default 'Date' option.

It looks like I'll need to check it every time I open a date-sensitive file.
When I first open DCad's 'Open' window (it still defaults to the default Documents/DCad folder because I've not bothered to change the target yet in 2018) it displays 'Date Modified', but as soon as I open one of my data folders it displays the settings I left it with yesterday.
My host folder opened with 'Date' and 'Date Modified' displayed this morning because I'd modified it yesterday. (and yes, I did shut my computer down last night)

When I open the same folders in Windows Explorer they all display 'Date' except one, which shows 'Date Modified'.

Thanks for the tip about filtering - I'd never noticed that before.


The earlier posts cover your question pretty well.

With DesignCAD individual commands are pretty simple, like the Live (V) command - it just starts the line drawing process without defining any points. After that you have a bunch of different ways to set individual points. The same point setting methods are used in all functions where you set points.

For example, the Plane (P) function works the same way. First you start the command, and then you use the various point setting functions to define the points of the plane. You do the same thing for a box/cube, cylinder, circle, sphere, ...

While setting points during the execution of these commands you can also start other functions, like the point setting functions. Everything nests nicely and when you press Enter the initial drawing command is completed.

CAUTION: You cannot nest macros within drawing operations - they terminate any commands in progress. For example, if you are drawing a line and have set a few points and then execute a macro the line will be terminated using the existing points. So you cannot use a macro to set points for drawing commands UNLESS the macro starts the drawing command.

One shortcut I find useful is that you can terminate one drawing operation by starting another. For example if you are creating a line you can finish it by pressing "V" again to finish the current line and start working on another. Or you can press "C" to finish the line and start a curve.

DesignCAD's command structure is simpler and easier to use than any other CAD program I have used, but you may have to "unlearn" a few habits from other programs before DesignCAD will seem simple to use.

Welcome to DesignCAD!


Welcome to Dcad, Michaeld04. Here's what you do to draw a line:

1] press V to invoke the command (or Draw menu> Lines...> Line, or click button with the zig-zag line in the Main Toolbar, or press the spacebar and enter 'line' in the command line then press enter)...

2] Click somewhere on the screen to set the first point of the line, or use one of the Point commands mentioned in 3b. If you move the mouse away a green preview (aka 'rubberband') line will follow the mouse...

3] To set the 2nd point do one of the following:
  a] click somewhere else;
  b] from the Points menu chose either Point Relative (to set the next point a certain distance from the last point set), Point XYZ (to set the next points at an absolute coordinate) or Point Polar (to set the next point a certain distance away and at an angle from the last point set). These commands require tons of explaining so read the help on them.

4] Continue doing 3a or 3b until you have all the points you want for that line. At one time dcad lines were limited to 200 points, don't know if that's still the case (back then you could set more than 200 points but the result will be separate connecting lines of no more than 200 points each).

5] When done press enter to end the line command (you can also press the middle mouse button to end commands).

If you want the line broken into 2 point segments press the 'break' key (   |   , the one over 'backslash').

One nice thing about dcad: when you want to start a line a known distance from an existing point you don't have to draw a temporary line first. Just start the Point Relative command and in the dialog box enter the deltaX, and/or
deltaY and/or deltaZ values. Then click 'Reference Point' and click OK or press Enter. When the dialog box goes away put the cursor near the existing point and 'gravity snap' (right click or press the Period key)(if a menu opens when you right click uncheck the top item and right click near the existing point again). The 1st point of the line will be set the specified delta distances from where you snapped.


I think the 'Date Created' style defaults when media files (image, video, etc) are in the folder. Things like 'tag' and 'author' usually comes along with 'date created'. I'm not sure about 'date' but only recently have I been seeing it.

In case you don't know: you can rearrange the columns by dragging them;   the columns can all be filtered. Put the mouse over a heading and a down arrow will appear. Click the down arrow and a menu will drop. Click what you want displayed. The menu won't close until you press enter of click outside. When the menu closes a checkmark will appear in place of the down arrow, letting you know a filtering active. Repeat the process to un-check the stuff and remove the filter.

There are separate hotkeys for PointPolar, PointRelative and PointXYZ. I've attached a table of shortcut keys that will make your life somewhat easier. Rename the extension to .xls. The forum doesn't allow attaching xls extension'd files.
Possibly Useless Background: I've used AutoCad for over thirty years, at work AND at home. The legal problem is that "My" drawings are not mine in a court of law. Try proving it even if I spend over $4000.00 for my own license. DesignCad 3D max(v27) 2018 to the rescue! DC lets me import, edit, export, print, so far, everything!
 Except for the Mouse use, I haven't had any of the problems that I've read any posts about.
I just can't wrap my head around a simple command like: LINE (V), point, point, point, ; length, angle, ; length, angle, Enter, Enter.

What I'm not getting is:  How do I;     V, "x-coordinate", "y-coordinate", "z-coordinate", TO: "x-coordinate", "y-coordinate", "z-coordinate", and on farther.
 When I press the second "Enter" there is nothing on the screen.  I don't have any trouble with "somewhere" on the screen to "somewhere else" on the screen, or "length, angle" to "length, angle" selecting "OK" ending by "Enter".
When I do the   "V" then move to the co-ordinate bar, input my Dims, and so on. So I think, I'm not doing something either going to the co-ordinate bar, or coming from it.  I am sure I'm making it more complex than it needs to be. I've always had trouble with that.  I just don't see it in the manual or the videos.

I agree I can modify it temporarily, but after closing and re-opening mine reverts to the default.

Does yours survive a shut-down???
You are right Phil, and thank you for the reassurance it isn't all my fault!
I know my machine updated last week because it would not let me shut down (when I was late for a meeting) because it hadn't finished screwing it up!

There used to be the option to apply folder display settings to sub-folders, but that seems long gone. It would've been a good way to reset all my folders - I know it'll bite me again one day when I forget to check, but like Rob says, going back to a drafting machine is probably not an option.

Hi Rob,
You can modify the columns in DCad with exactly the same options as Windows Explorer.
Just right-click on the column header and select 'More' to get the list you posted.
The only difference appears to be the order in which the columns are displayed.
In DCad it is: Name/Date Mod/Type/Size.
In Windows it's: Name/Type/Size/Date Mod.
TBH I'm not sure now if I was browsing in DCad or in Windows, but when I check I am seeing most of my folders display date Mod when I open it in DCad but some recently made folders on the desktop of my computer are showing 'Date'.
The folder that I had the issue with first now opens with 'Date' and 'Date Mod' displayed each time. (because I changed it)

Somehow, new folders had been created with the 'Date' column showing instead of the 'Date Mod' column. I'm the only one who uses this computer so it's not someone else, unless i have Sherman Klump hiding inside me.

After a little research online I have not found anybody who can explain what the 'Date' column actually shows. Apparently it changes by file type - it can (seemingly randomly) display date created, date modified, date accessed or date saved.

There is a moral to this story of course - keep taking the pills!
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